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#1   KABA 

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 09:02 AM

I have a friend who (according to him) is chiav kares and wants to not be.

What practical steps should he take to not be kares?

I checked in Rambam's Hilchot Teshuvah (maybe I should post this in the halacha forum?) and it says Tshuvah and Yom Kippur aren't enough, the atonement for kares (or anything you are chiav misa for) is not complete until there is suffering:
ולעולם אין מתכפר לו כפרה גמורה עד שיבואו עליו יסורין

Maybe my friend should start fasting or something? Or just wait and he'll get the suffering in due course? Or maybe he already had the suffering and doesn't realize it yet?

What would you advise him?

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 09:09 AM

What are "yissurim"? According to some, even putting your hand in your pocket to pull out a quarter and you don't have one constitutes yissurim.
But "Rachmana baya liba" --HaShem desires the heart. If your friend does all the other things then surely he'll be forgiven.
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Posted 22 April 2007 - 12:29 AM

KABA, on Apr 20 2007, 10:02 AM, said:

What would you advise him?



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